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URAA Karsh photos
[edit]This is in relation to the following DRs:
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Herbert Morrison 1947.jpg
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Donald M. Nelson 1947.jpg
You were right about the principle of the URAA restoration I think, but after noticing the inconsistent dates on file names vs. the descriptions at the Dutch archive, I decided to do a little bit more digging with reverse image search. It turns out both photographs seem to have been taken before 1946 (https://www.npg.org.uk/whatson/display/2011/herbert-morrison-the-cockney-socialist; https://www.ebay.com/itm/193374009378). The file description and file name were both wrong. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:32, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding the eBay listing, it does indeed say that the date of print was 1946, with the negative dating from the 1930s to early 1940s. This suggests the image might not be subject to URAA restoration since it wasn't published before 1946, but I wonder if it might be a case of the print being made in the U.S. (as per the eBay listing), which could change the situation. If it was unpublished until printed in the U.S., U.S. rules might come into play. I'm currently heading to bed, and won't be able to look at this until later tomorrow, or on Monday - would you be willing to perhaps open a COM:UNDEL or something? --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 03:07, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also, if published in 1946, then it would be PD first on 1 Jan 1997 in Canada (1946+50+1)- hence after the URAA cutoff. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 03:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding the other file, the NPG source attributes "Karsh / Camera Press". Camera Press is
is one of Britain's top independent picture agencies. Founded in 1947 we represent high profile photographers and agencies worldwide
. I wonder if it was first published in the UK and not Canada? If Camera Press claims copyright, could this been photographed in 1943, but published in/after 1947 when that agency had been founded?) Some questions here to answer first...--Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 03:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)- @IronGargoyle: Given that you did some digging as you stated, do you have any comments regarding the above? --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:33, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding the other file, the NPG source attributes "Karsh / Camera Press". Camera Press is
- Also, if published in 1946, then it would be PD first on 1 Jan 1997 in Canada (1946+50+1)- hence after the URAA cutoff. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 03:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
@Josve05a:Hi,this image it's should be deleted or kept? (google translator) AbchyZa22 (talk) 18:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I responded there. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 22:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)